• zerfuffle@lemmy.ml
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    US: curbs semiconductor exports to China

    Europe: curbs lithography machine exports to China

    China: curbs drone exports to Europe

    Europe is entering the “find out” phase of “fuck around and find out.” This is what shoving a knife into the back of globalization in the name of national security gets you…

    Not that China’s semiconductor competence would have affected European security given that China has neither the means nor the desire to project power outside of their immediate vicinity.

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      The trade war US and EU are pushing for seems like a stupid attempt to stop China from developing.
      It’s very petty of them because they can’t compete fairly and have to resort to such BS, and I don’t think it’s going to work.

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        There is not such thing as “fair competition,” especially when it’s a defense industry.

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          I was talking about trade restrictions they put on chips, EVs, etc., not the defense industry.

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      China is exertng their economic power in Africa nation building all the time. Their nuclear arms stockpile is fastest growing. China make a habit of stealing IP so much that companies stopped sharing prottypes for years as they would be taken at the border for security checks and returned with the deal myateriously disappearing from the “private” company

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        “Stealing IP” isn’t real. The idea that you can own an idea is a legal fiction we made up, we shouldn’t be surprised when other countries don’t respect our imaginary property.

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          While I agree that Imaginary Property shouldn’t be real, in our capitalist hellhole it is indeed real and it has as assigned value to people that are inside that capitalist hellhole.

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        China is exertng their economic power in Africa nation building all the time.

        Exerting? How? Are they threatening sanctions like the US? Are they forcing “structural reforms” on them like the IMF?

        Their nuclear arms stockpile is fastest growing.

        Says who? Last time I checked the US stockpile is more than 10x larger still.

        China make a habit of stealing IP so much […]

        Does this comment have a point or are you just collecting random brainworms?

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      Europe and the US can absolutely create and support the industry required to make as many drones needed, but defense contractors make more money if they can export it to china to save on costs and restrict supply to increase profit, so of course that is what happens.