• bstix@feddit.dk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    94
    ·
    9 months ago

    I was at a Chinese restaurant on Rhodes about 15 years ago, where they served food windows update style.

    We ordered off some menu written in Chinese and Greek letters and in a probably wrongly translated German too, so we had no idea of what we actually ordered. Just accepting the terms, right?

    Then they started serving food.

    We ate through 3 dishes and was about being full thinking this was a great deal, but then they just served another meal, and like, okay… let’s have a taste, and then it just kept coming in table servings instead of individual servings. Every time we emptied a plate theyd bring in something else. We never asked them for anything though.

    A few servings in we realised how we’d misinterpreted the menu and said, ok enough is enough, and they were like “but you must have the dessert, it’s part of the price, you already paid” (we hadn’t actually paid then, but I suppose they meant"included") and so well we ate another three rounds of ice-cream, sugar-fried dumplings and fruit, to the point where I had to stand up and say “No more food! Please no more!”, and the waiter was “More food yes coming up!”. We stopped her and just stood up, throwing a bunch of money on the table according to our order and hoping it was enough. The waiter then came back with change.

    Microsoft wouldn’t return your change.

    Anyway… epilogue. I get it now. Chinese custom is to leave food when you’re done and an empty plate is a request for more. I was on Rhodes 2 years ago, and tried to find it again, but the restaurant seemed to be gone. There was a kebab shop instead.

    • bulwark@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      Funny enough I had a very similar situation happen to me and a group of friends in Rhodes Greece, except at the end of the meal the bill came and it was exorbitantly expensive. We realized it was a scam but we were drunk and the food was really good so we payed and left.

  • mlg@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    72
    ·
    9 months ago

    Ubuntu Repos: Sometimes runs out of food or accidentally spills two trays together

    Fedora Repos: New plates every week

    Debian Repos: Same 3 meals that are 5 star rated

    Arch Repos: A machine gun that continuously fires pulverized food at your mouth

      • Johanno@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        9 months ago

        Debian Trixie has daily (even multiple times a day) updates currently.

        I update every once in a while. Still need to figure out an update schedule that checks every few hours

        • dan@upvote.au
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          9 months ago

          You could install and configure the unattended-upgrades package to install updates in the background. I usually wouldn’t recommend it on testing or unstable though. Works well on Debian stable since there’s generally no breaking changes.

          • Johanno@feddit.de
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            9 months ago

            Hadn’t breaking changes for over half a year. Don’t expect really bad ones. And if then I can uninstall the package

      • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        9 months ago

        I was going to say the same thing. Almost daily updates, and never a crash or a lockup after a new update.

        I’m honestly surprised more people don’t use Fedora. (I’m using the KDE spin in case that matters to anyone.)

        • baseless_discourse@mander.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          9 months ago

          I do believe fedora is not as beginner friendly as mint or ubuntu, mainly in installer, nvidia driver installation, and codecs. You also need a third party app (tweak) to manage startup applications.

          There is also not enough resource about the distro, as most resource is written for ubuntu. This can be another point of frustration for beginners.

          Also gnome store is super slow and refreshes a lot, which is not a great introduction to linux.

          But I do believe it is a great distro for people’s first distro-hop.

          • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            9 months ago

            I don’t mean to be argumentative, but I don’t believe you’re correct on several points.

            For example, if you’re using the KDE version you don’t have to worry about the Gnome store being slow. And the KDE version comes with its own app for managing startup applications, so no third party app is needed.

            As far as ease of use of install, as long as you’re not trying to repartition drives and you’re taking all the defaults it installs really easily, and all you have to do is click a checkbox for third party drivers and that gets the Nvidia and codecs stuff installed.

            I too started on a Ubuntu and then moved over the Fedora, and it seems like it has much better hardware support, especially for older hardware. I don’t know if that’s just IBM’s influence or what, as I don’t track the day-to-day of the two different distributions.

    • KISSmyOS@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      9 months ago

      I only update Arch before installing new software, or when there’s a news item about something requiring manual intervention.
      So about once a month.
      Every update is basically a complete reinstall.

      • Taste@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        9 months ago

        Bro, what? You’re doing something majorly wrong if everytime you update you have to treat it as a fresh install.

        • KISSmyOS@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          9 months ago

          No no, it just installs the new packages and everything works. Takes a minute. What I meant is, it installs new versions for basically every installed package.

  • Delta_44@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    34
    ·
    9 months ago

    Windows: 1GB of download, one bug fix or two. Linux: 20MB, total refactor or some major feature

  • Gork@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    9 months ago

    I would like the rice and bean update but not the other identical rice and bean plate that is rotated 180 degrees.

  • Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    The dopamine from updates is real. After using an arch based distro for awhile, I switched to one with weekly updates instead. I was surprised by how disappointing it was to check for updates and not have any available.

    • pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      Arch together with btrfs or zfs (or in a few years, bcachefs) and snapshots is the way to go. You can just boot to a previous snapshot if something fails.

      The end game here is of course NixOS, where the operating system itself provides a way to boot to an old configuration by default.

  • HouseWolf@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    The updates were never the issue, It was having them get in the way of what you were currently doing.

    I would say I don’t remember updates bothering me as much back on Windows 7? I don’t recall them suddenly shutting down my computer when I was in the middle of a game or work, Only to fail and hold my PC hostage for half an hour…

    • st3ph3n@midwest.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      9 months ago

      Windows’ approach now being ‘everything is a cumulative update, lol’ is what I suspect makes it take so long for the updates to actually install now.

      • fidodo@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        9 months ago

        I’ve done massive updates on Linux, sometimes it asks me to restart when it’s done, but I’ve never been forced to, I don’t think, unless I’m updating to a whole new version of the OS.

        • st3ph3n@midwest.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          9 months ago

          Yeah, I only remember even being asked to reboot after kernel updates, and it isn’t forced.

    • xradeon@lemmy.one
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      9 months ago

      Make sure the “Get the latest updates as soon as they’re available” is off. I think it’s off by default. That setting will reboot your computer no matter what as soon as the update is done installing.

  • Hyperreality@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    This isn’t fair.

    There’s a bug in one of the most recent security updates on windows, something to do with the size of the recovery partition, so at the moment plenty of windows users aren’t updating or failing to update, and it’s not as if windows has fixed it yet either so most users are stuck waiting on it.

    In other words: sometimes far too many updates, sometimes not enough (timely) updates, often broken updates.

    • Rhaedas@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      9 months ago

      I have a laptop that’s suffered from that for a while now, so it’s not just one update but a trend. Tried a number of things from clearing space to even a manual download on a USB to force it. It always reverts back to churning away trying to complete the update, restarting, and then reversing it. The irony is the laptop works fine until it comes time for it to check again, then repeat ad nauseam.

    • naeap@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      9 months ago

      What version(s) of Windows are affected?

      Didn’t hear it it - and seldomly booting my windows…