The conversations are amazing

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    33 minutes ago

    picture 2: not real and technically imposible to do that cause we have 1.4 billion people

    This makes me imagine how social credit department people hands look like if it is real

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    2 hours ago

    People are people no matter where they live, which also means you can’t trust any government anywhere. Propaganda is powerful.

    The idea of a social credit score has always been hilarious to me, like yo bros we have credit scores over here and they legitimately fuck us over since you need good credit to do alot of things like renting a place to live.

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    2 hours ago

    Wow, the content on the Chinese-controlled social media platform aligns with the Chinese narrative? Shocking.

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    wow the level of cope in this thread (thankfully not that many tho) arguing over stats - which are probably made up anyway.

    some people can’t handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs

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    2 hours ago

    我爱小红书!I love rednote! So many cool people and I’m brushing up on my mandarin 😎

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    5 hours ago

    Few things blew my mind even though I’ve been a big fan of Chinese economic and political policy for a while

    They actually really like Soviet Culture, the marching soldiers and flags etc. Soviet rock like Kino and the like is very popular!

    They’re casually Marxist, its not something they have to fight to learn about so socialism is a casual existence for them. I figured the youth would be “too cool or hip” but doesn’t seem to be the case

    They’re very similar as gamers, they really like shooters like battlefield and cs go. I assume their MMOs are different but I’m asking about that

    It truly is a massive cultural exchange the likes of which have never been seen before. I’m trying to find out if they grew up on the same games, Morrowind Deus Ex Thief Ultima Online D&D etc

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    1 hour ago

    Trying to talk about the conversations on Rednote while on .ml is kind of hilarious.

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    1 hour ago

    Quick! Somebody link to one thing the US government has said about China.

    You lose points by googling, because everyone upvoting surely has seen the US government say something about China and knows where to find that document.

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    7 hours ago

    Eh, there’s truth and lies on both sides. Coming from someone that lived in china for 4 years and was able to engage with Chinese primary news sources. But basic healthcare in china is faster and cheaper, but then again I went to get a wart removed and they prescribed me acorn paste that accelerated the growth of the wart. So win some lose some.

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    9 hours ago

    I spent $82 USD on cold, flu and bronchitis treatment last year!

    The fact that this is considered expensive there made me do a choking double take in the same way as learning that an actual mansion in the 70s used to cost like 20 grand.

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      the median income in China is around 26,800 Yuan (USD 3,855) per month. $82 USD (492yuan) is actually expensive. Since it is median income, you can expect a lot of people are not making that amount especially in the inland regions.

      Comparing it to the States is not the good flex that people think it is.

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        It costs me $60 just to see my family doctor, after insurance kicks in, and before paying for any prescriptions.

        I do not make 30 x $3,855 per month, which is the cost proportion we’re referring to.

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        Median monthly income in China according to most sources I can find is just 1300-1400 USD. Still, 82 USD for that income is not expensive, and that’s for higher end private medical care outside the main healthcare system.

        It’d be like an American paying for medical care with a weeks groceries.

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        As a portion of median income it’s still far far better than the out of pocket costs in the US (just like pretty much every other country on earth)

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        This is not true, 26,800 RMB per month is Senior Developer in Shenzhen (Shenzhen is China Silicon Valley, But the salary is only half of Google L3. and Daily work 9+ hours, six or seven days a week, plz search 996.ICU).

        Real china mainland are 600 million people who earn less than 1,000 RMB (136.39 USD) per month (year 2020) by Li Keqiang say (former Prime Minister has passed away).

        Trade union? Strike action? No, You’ll go to jail, plz search “Jasic incident”.

        Absolute majority Rednote user is children of the bourgeoisie (Real china is Kuaishou and douyin (But algorithms have created echo chambers that isolate people) or search “whyyoutouzhele” on twitter).

        They don’t even know that 120 is a paid service, or maybe they’re just bragging…

        In Jining (former capital of Shandong) Base fare: 100 RMB for the first 10km, 150 RMB for 10-20km, and an additional 10 RMB for each kilometer over 20,

        There’s a 50 yuan charge for using things like stretchers and oxygen tanks.

      • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        What about purchasing power or whatever that metric is called?

        Edit: and it is still a flex. Being able to talk to a doctor without taking a loan is pretty good compared to the us

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    There’s a bunch of Chinese posts asking if the stuff about school shootings, fires, homelessness are exaggerated propaganda only to be told otherwise. It’s both hilarious and sad.

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      10 hours ago

      People of the US and China are both unsure of what to believe about the other, because both are so propagandized lol

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        There is definitely more direct censorship of domestic events in China than in the US. For instance, in the US it is widely publicised that the government separates children from adults at the border. Ask Chinese about the Uyghur work camps and they won’t know.

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        10 hours ago

        Who told you that the people of China are propagandized, especially to hate other countries and peoples as much as the US does?

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          Friends of mine who have moved away from China. One of them had police at their door in China for social media posts that were friendly to Uyghurs (not even anything to do with the genocide, just general friendliness as a “we’re all Chinese” kind of message). Being taken to police stations for even slightly questioning the state narrative is terrifying.

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          Their access to news is controlled and for some topics all available news is what we’d call propaganda. Particularly anything about Japan or the Taiwan issue. Most people I know there realize this to an extent but without any other information do still believe the core idea even if skeptical of details.

          But at the same time I’d argue there’s no such thing as a population that’s not propagandized. In the US the big news corporations only will present views favorable to their profitability and continued growth. Sure they disagree with eachother, but it’s still always a pro-business view. State news from Russia is (I’d argue rightly) not available on many US platforms to discourage it’s influence for example.

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          8 hours ago

          Woah I never recognized your username in the wild before. Thanks for giving us Lemmy. Huge fan.

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              10 hours ago

              You mean how both China, and the US propagandize their citizens? Yeah, I’m fully aware of that already. All states will do it, as a system of control over the working class, in order to continue to exploit them.

              I mean, if controlling the people wasn’t the goal, whats the purpose of the oppression of a state?