• grue@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Obligatory reminder that:

    1. It didn’t happen that way in the book
    2. The power of the Ring was such that nobody, not even Elrond, stood a chance of intentionally acting to destroy it. Elrond couldn’t have pushed Isildur if he tried. Frodo and Gollum only managed to get the ring into the lava because they were fighting to keep it for themselves and went over the edge accidentally.

    Video going into “nerdy detail:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P68HWtN4zG8

  • Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
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    14 hours ago

    I’m sure that would have looked great to all the gathered men who were still alive.

    “oh yeah, the elves showed up and one of them went up to the crack of doom with Isildur after his father died, and the elf came back alone and wouldn’t tell us what happened inside. Something’s fucky. We better prepare for an attack from the elves.”

    Whether anyone actually threw hands immediately or not, men and elves would have a far shittier relationship after that.

    The question is, did more suffering occur because Elrond didnt do this? We can’t know.

    (but probably)

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    14 hours ago

    Boring movie series then.

    …and Gandalf the Grey spent 3 weeks drinking and smoking and setting off fireworks with the Hobbits, remembering his old friend Bilbo who died some years earlier after an average hobbit lifespan with his nephew Frodo…

    THE END

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      12 hours ago

      remembering his old friend Bilbo who died some years earlier after an average hobbit lifespan horribly in a cave after being captured by goblins…

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        12 hours ago

        Would goblins/orcs still have endured without the lingering evil of Sauron?

        They weren’t naturally occurring (yes they bred but they were made to be a breeding army for evil and I’m pretty sure Tolkien alluded them to dying out quickly after the ring was destroyed) in Tolkien’s lore I’m pretty sure and were interchangable terms for the same species in his lore even though they’re different in others.

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          remembering his old friend Bilbo who died some years earlier after an average hobbit lifespan horribly after encountering giant spiders in mirkwood…

          • MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca
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            8 hours ago

            Would they have even gone on that quest without Gandalf pushing for it to happen? Wasn’t Gandalf worried about Smaug helping out Sauron? Or is this the nasty Hobbitses films polluting my mind?

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      12 hours ago

      You know, there’s actually another trilogy even better than Lord of the Rings that was never written because this exact scenario played out. You would have loved it, but the guy who killed the other guy really did everyone a solid.

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    14 hours ago

    He didn’t live happily ever after anyhow so nothing was lost. Also I think he kinda spar on the lives of everyone who died that day by keeping the ring sooooo too bad.