The man that should stop Donald Trump is Donald Trump.
It’s stunning that he can say and do so much… terribleness… and still even have a chance at the presidency (again).
it’s a race to the bottom, and liberals are so attached to biden for some reason they seem to actively want him despite the fact that some random state senator would be a safer bet. if we get fascism I’m putting some of the blame on bidenbros
It’s the two party system and electoral college that causes the “lessor evil” effect. We’ll have to address that better next time.
Edit: autocorrect gave us an electric college!
Electric Collage would be a great band name.
We’ll have to address that better next time.
is what we’re told every single time for decades and this is the result. maybe it’s time to break out plan b (before it’s banned in texas)
I meant the next time we set up a democracy…
Has there ever been a current president that the party has not put up for re-election after their first term? The decision isn’t really up to me as a pleb Democrat, it’s up to the party in Washington D.C. on who they want to represent the party in the election. When given the choice, I’ll vote for anyone over Trump.
I just haven’t seen the evidence that some random state sentator would be a safer bet.
The unfortunate reality is that there are still too many voters who will vote for a centrist old white man over Trump, but would not vote for a young progressive over Trump.
I didn’t like it in 2020 either, but the Democrats did what they needed to do to beat Trump.
I’m pretty old. Biden is hands down the best president in my lifetime.
He’s way older than I am, which is a problem, but he’s also a national hero for beating Trump in 2020 and making the win stick, which was more difficult than it seemed.
Since then he’s been great on jobs, infrastructure, defense, and a host of other issues. Not that I agree with him on everything, but to call him a run of the mill conservative Dem, as some do in these comments, is almost slander. He’s an old-school Democrat who survived all the way through the Reagan revolution. The old-school Dems ran the country for almost 50 years from about 1933 to 1980, and did a pretty good job.
In 2020 I was 100% behind Liz Warren and disliked Biden. I thought he’d lose, but this year I’ll gladly vote for him. If he beats Trump for good, they’ll be making statues of him.
Blah blah blah it’s January for crying out loud. Most voters haven’t even actually started thinking about the race. Only the terminally online and talking heads are thinking about this.
Of course Biden’s unpopular compared with a nebulous “what if” alternative. Shit, the real comparison people answering these polls are probably making is him against Obama. Obama was only fighting the Great Recession, not a global pandemic and a wannabe dictator with all his fans and an expansionist Russia with greedy stockholders driving CEOs to gouge consumers under cover of “inflation” and on and on.
I’m not even saying Biden’s approval rating will get better between now and November. But if Trump is the Republican nominee, I think Biden has a pretty strong shot at winning anyway. As long as we all get out and vote.
the dems seem as helpless to run this geriatric conservative as the gop are to prevent an actual fascist dictator wannabe from successfully running for office.
how can both these massive parties suck so fucking hard
Because the electorate is doing little to nothing at the local scale to change voting methodology. Until that happens in a broad fashion, the two parties will continue to be a problem.
Edit: you can downvote all you want, it doesn’t change reality.
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The Democrats are generally a fairly ineffective ally on good days. The Republicans are an effective enemy every day. It’s not an equivocation to say those are both crappy options.
indeed. what we really need to do is political action outside of just voting, because voting for genocide joe or donald “hitler” trump isn’t gonna work very well
uhhh no.
“both sides” is pretending both suffer from the same issue… i have clearly not made that case
uhhh yes.
“both sides” is presenting them both as equally bad… you have clearly made that case
ha, again no. i clearly identified one side as the obvious choice. but keep tryin’… im sure youll find something. i believe in you!
I don’t. It’s an obvious distinction.
And you are proposing what?
I believe you’re under the mistaken impression that u/originalucifer is actually running one or both of these parties.
Trump’s dislike is going to run even higher (and a lot deeper).
I have never approved of the person I voted for president
Voting isn’t a valentine. It’s a chess move. —Rebecca Solnit
Forfeiting is a chess move, yes.
Except the chess piece doesn’t honestly care what you think and a couple thousand people in flyover country can put you in checkmate regardless of how you move.
Voting is more like beating your head against a wall. If enough people join you then you might just move the building. But don’t expect it to feel good afterwards.
I fundamentally disagree. If this was at all true, Republicans wouldn’t still be working so hard to make it difficult to vote in red states.
The point isn’t for your vote to feel good; if that’s your end goal, you are naive. The point is that it’s strategic to an end, something the Fascists understand quite well.
Like I said: it works if enough people also beat their head against the wall. And the building will shift about a sixteenth of an inch. And we’ll all celebrate the power of democracy and how awesome it is we do this ever four years.
Oh, and for the preceding year there’s bullhorns playing at all hours and if you don’t listen to them you’re not and informed head-basher
And the building will shift about a sixteenth of an inch. And we’ll all celebrate the power of democracy and how awesome it is we do this ever four years.
Yes. A little progress is progress nonetheless. You can wish for it to be different, but this is how democracy works, because not everyone thinks like you or has the same priorities as you. Even ignoring the loud authoritarians, there’s still a wide variety of people with different backgrounds and paradigms deciding what they find most important when they vote.
Sorry! Next year the people bashing their heads against the wall moved it half an inch and now your kid’s trapped under it.
Clown government.
Probably because someone was telling people that voting didn’t matter, so they never showed up to oppose that.
If only there were elections more than once every four years…
Oh wait!
I was exaggerating. Smaller building, same bead bashing. Fewer bullhorns.
Oddly enough, if you move buildings a sixteenth of an inch at a time… but over thousands of times, it moves significantly!
The fascists vote entirely on feeling, it’s why Trump and MAGA have taken over the GOP who’s “strategy” lost them their party.
but the people who say this keep losing, so it doesn’t work in reality
Untrue. Look at the midterms, where we were supposed to have a “red wave,” which wound up with places like Michigan having a Dem majority in all three chambers and Republicans getting only a very thin majority in the US House, or all the people who voted for “not-Trump.”
Strategic voting absolutely works.
that’s not a presidential race
That’s not a sufficient rebuttal.
See you in June when prices come down across the board, wages rise, and more conservatives die of preventable diseases.
Those are the things we like about Biden! That is like saying " You don’t like Trump because the COVID vaccine was developed while he was president."
No, I am pretty sure there are other things that would make people not like him.
