Well look at China back paddle again, where is that “evidence” some troll mentioned about and psychology class 101 blah blah. This is so predictable just like the western “think for the kids” policy changes without any long term thinking or any science backing that decision. (like some US states pushing for abstinent for sex ed instead of safe sex and then cost a lot more social or politically cause unwanted baby or black market abortion.)

For any one that tries to hail that and ban mtx, gacha, season pass, but do not put more energy on pushing legislation to ban lottery, casino, mall gacha eggs, trading cards, kinder eggs or McDonald kid’s meal collectables, you are a hypocrite.

We need more education on math(probability and game theory), sales strategy and involved psychology tricks( FOMO, door in the face, etc), financial/budgeting literacy and planning like you teach how to eat healthy and exercise, as they affect your everyday life. We can push for things that collect data for strange spending behavior(enforced if they play those gacha/mtx/online casino) and catch vulnerable people that are prone to become gambling addicts and direct them to therapy and bar them from more spending if cross a threshold(say $500/month) defined by law or regulation to protect their finance(play.com in Canada has something similar if I remember). Well, until the psychologist and bank says okay as we can’t stop retirees to burn their fun allowance for whatever they like, like we can’t stop you from buying collector edition and then they sit somewhere collecting dust. Or, you know, go to arcade burn like 100 dollars and then your ticket only trades for toys you can buy at dollar store for maybe 10 bucks total. Some people burn that money for the experience knowing fully well they won’t make a return, and are not addicts.

And for the trolls, I don’t care about the up/down votes anywhere, feel free to waste your time do that.

  • ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.comEnglish
    151·
    6 months ago

    I firmly think that the proposed regulation on games were a great idea. What they wanted to curb were patterns that are inherently toxic and that hits young people and kids disproportionately. Hell I’m not young and have more than enough money and education and still fall for those tactics from time to time. I don’t necessarily blame anyone but myself for that but at the same time believe it is the governments purpose to set rules to protect its citizens from corporate interest. The repeal of the proposed regulation here only shows that money is more important to China than some people want to believe, in my opinion at least.

    • PenguinTD@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      13·
      6 months ago

      nah, I don’t buy this. Maybe I am more cynical and critical but putting too much trust in government or good will of corporation is just asking for trouble. People are responsible for the government decision they elected, and guess who the reps think their “boss” are? There are plenty of sell out examples around the world where good intention legislation ended up just have a couple terms that really cushion up their corp buddies.

      This might sound like a “universally” good propose, but does the “ban violence game” sound familiar? Does “yep, this life style does not sound healthy, just ban everything that’s not healthy or not productive, like just make all the decision for me.” actually better? Are we as society just lose the ability to tell your own children that “this is stupid, why would anyone wants to spend money on that other than consider it a donation to support the devs”?

  • Lunar@lemmy.wtfEnglish
    71·
    6 months ago

    Money talks…

    We need more education on math(probability and game theory), sales strategy and involved psychology tricks( FOMO, door in the face, etc), financial/budgeting literacy and planning like you teach how to eat healthy and exercise

    Well, the biggest problem with that is that the some of the biggest users of games that employ those tricks are children or teenagers who are too young to be physically and psychologically mature and to have proper impulse control. Like with games like Fortnight, FIFA Ultimate Team, Itch.io, …

    Ultimately you are excusing profoundly unethical and immoral behavior and pushing the responsability on the potential victims, some of which without the mental faculties to resist.

    • PenguinTD@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      13·
      6 months ago

      sorry, no, I am simply asking those parents to just play with their kids and teach them what is good and what is bad, like old times. If you like to bubble wrap your kids that’s fine, eventually they will come to the real world and with way less protection and less people to guide them. You are talking like these type of thing does not require training at all? You pass age of 18 or 20 and now you are suddenly immune to bad sales tricks?

      My younger age a period of my allowance dump was in the arcades, eventually I found that it does absolutely not justify the money I put in. I’d rather save those and buy a mecha or whatever other toys that are fun and can be played in many different ways, instead of a couple hours of “let me beat this game”. Because, money is very limited and I obviously aren’t raised by a arcade owner. That’s my learning experience, I am still glad that even with very limited allowance, I get to experience that and learn early on. Cause “well, you just spend your allowance on arcade game, you should save some money for the ice cream,” while me watching my younger sibling eating their ice cream. Every little bit of experience goes a long way.

      And yes, there are a portion that are more vulnerable then others simply they lack the brain circuit or wiring to stop that feedback loop, and catching them early is better than catching it late.