Japan prepares regulation requiring Apple to allow sideloading::As the Digital Markets Act antitrust law passed in the European Union, Apple has until March 2024 to let users…

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    11 months ago

    Having app developers be able to avoid Apples forced 30% fee is great. The fee is pure rent seeking masquerading as curation.

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        11 months ago

        The #1 thing they provide is exposure.

        The vast majority of users simply won’t download and install something they find on a website on their phones.

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          11 months ago

          Thankfully, it seems like places like the EU and now Japan are considering ALL use cases, not just the majority of them.

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          11 months ago

          Even I don’t install random apps if they aren’t on the playstore or fdroid

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        11 months ago

        Agreed, If it wasn’t a forced arrangement I wouldn’t necessarily nave a problem with the price

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        11 months ago

        I suspect you’re just repeating arguments you’ve heard, so don’t take this internet rage personally, but that is complete bullshit.

        • Hosting costs nothing. Devs will gladly foot the bill for that if given the option. Even if you distribute your apps on AWS (which is notorious for severely overcharging on egress), your expenses will be no where near 15%-30% of your revenue.

        • Payment processing is a competitive field outside the appstores. Even 15%-30% is ludicrous when “overpriced” processors like stripe charge 2%-3%

        • APIs are not something sold to developers. They build them as part of the operating system because they have to. That’s how it works. They could try selling licenses, but it would result in devs not building on their fancy new features.

        (you didn’t mention the ones below, but people with your argument usually do, so I’m adding them for completeness)

        • Security is also bullshit. The Appstore and Play store are FILLED with malware. It is not physically possible to manually review the sheer volume of apps published to those stores. They also are not incentivized to improve the process much, because each time your kid or grandma accidentally activates a $40/week subscription, Apple/Google take a 15%-30% cut.

        • Curation/promotion is bullshit. Discoverability on these stores has always been bad, but has been particularly awful since both Apple/Google have started selling search ads in the store. The other day I almost accidentally downloaded a fake ChatGPT app because it was the first result when I searched, it had a very similar icon, “ChatGPT” in the name, 5 stars, and millions of downloads.

        These stores also heavily incentivize devs to push subscriptions. I suspect (but haven’t confirmed) that the Appstore and Google Play both rank subscription based apps higher than others, and subs tend to pay a lower revshare fee than other monetization types.

        I could go on all day about the rotten dumpster fires that are these disgusting stores. The only people who defend them are fanboys and people who have never actually had to deal with them professionally.

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      11 months ago

      Their curation is terrible too. The app store has so much shovelware crap

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    11 months ago

    Based Japan once again. I would love to see other countries requiring this too, but I’m not going to hold my breath unfortunately.

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    I tried to install an old version of San Andreas recently on my phone cause the last update broke controller support (which I actually bought with money).

    Apparently we don’t own our Android OBB directories anymore because of “safety”.

    So far the “we Android users already have this”…

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    11 months ago

    Great, now force them to open up their NFC, so mobile banking apps can skip Apple Pay for their contactless payment feature

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    11 months ago

    Usb-C, side loading, what’s next? APK or snap packages compatibility?

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    I was against sideloading, because I’m in it for the walled garden and if governments were to use their own stalls to publish their apps, then, actually it doesn’t matter anymore! Our gov apps still invasive anyway, imo.

    For the clueless, the particular app scans your face with various coloured screens being blasted through the phone screen, doesn’t matter if you have face ID enabled or not, its their own scan.

    Power to sideloading.

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      You being paid by apple to fear monger about sideloading?

      If you fear this, just leave the sideloading to others.

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        Wherever I ever see a comment complaining about sideloading, I just assume they’re an Apple financed marketing shill.

        Even if they’re just a brainwashed moron, the argument is so stupid they deserve nothing but ridicule.

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          My biggest issue is cancelling recurring services. The Apple model requires that all your subscriptions appear on a pane of glass that you can notice if you signed up for a free trial and it’s been billing you $2.99/month because you wanted to read your kid Dr. Suess books on a flight when you were exhausted. Good luck figuring that out if you only have “$2.99 STRIPE BABELBOX INC” on your credit card bill.

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        Um, I said I believed before. I don’t believe it works anymore (walled garden). And that the government apps already doing this in the walled garden. Even said power to sideloading….

        And I get downvoted to oblivion?

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          11 months ago

          Probably also for the Q-Anon level lunacy with the government apps n stuff.

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              11 months ago

              Wanting privacy is OK, and your link to the video on the face ID of the bank also helped explain what you where talking about.

              It’s the way you wrote it that came across if you where some conspiracy nutcase and that causes downvotes.

              Many people share concerns about the use and storage of PII by for profit companies and governments without any oversight on what actually happens with the data. It is good that waryness on who you provide what data to is Becoming more mainstream. I remember years ago people would look at me funny if I replied “no thank you” when asked my zip code in a store. Now a lot more people do it.