• BestBouclettes@jlai.luEnglish
    1016·
    6 months ago

    It’s only war crimes when it comes from the Hamas region of Gaza, otherwise it’s sparkling oopsies

    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      498·
      6 months ago

      Great job by the IDF killing people in a hospital and lying about the pretenses. And after throwing everyone out and destroying the medical equipment they turn hospitals and schools into military bases.

      This is even worse than the thing Hamas did not do.

      • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
        66·
        6 months ago

        I’m not so sure it’s worse actually.

        Hiding in an active hospital is worse imo because it makes it a potentially legal target* for bombing which risks the lives of everyone working there and their patients.

        *I’m not sure how it would be classified in this exact instance, but according to international law like the Geneva convention combatants that are hiding with very close proximity to civilians can make some collateral damage acceptable. I.E. it’s not possible to run into a hospital and expect that killing you is suddenly illegal. Bombing the whole hospital is likely illegal though.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          85·
          6 months ago

          I recommend reading the UN report on israel’s Genocide by Franscesca Albanese if you want to learn about international law. This Hasbara version is not how international law works.

          Also this is way worse as israel is illegitimately destroying hospitals, torturing patients and doctors and then using the place as a base. All while lying about the pretext of their assault on a hospjtal

          • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
            57·
            6 months ago

            I was just sharing what I remembered from reading the ICRC website and other sources a while back (probably last year or something).

            Here is what I found on their website right now:

            If armed forces are using a hospital or school as a base to launch attacks or store weapons, are those places then a legitimate military target?

            The laws of war prohibit direct attacks on civilian objects, like schools. They also prohibit direct attacks against hospitals and medical staff, which are specially protected under IHL. That said, a hospital or school may become a legitimate military target if it contributes to specific military operations of the enemy and if its destruction offers a definite military advantage for the attacking side.

            If there is any doubt, they cannot be attacked. Hospitals only lose their protection in certain circumstances - for example if a hospital is being used as a base from which to launch an attack, as a weapons depot, or to hide healthy soldiers/fighters. And there are certain conditions too.

            Before a party to a conflict can respond to such acts by attacking, it has to give a warning, with a time limit, and the other party has to have ignored that warning. Some States have endorsed the Safe Schools Declaration and Guidelines, which aim to reduce the military use of schools.

            https://www.icrc.org/en/document/ihl-rules-of-war-FAQ-Geneva-Conventions

            I have read more about it earlier and I could probably give you some more quotes and links but right now I don’t care enough.

            Also is Israel torturing patients and staff? That’s the first I’ve heard of it. Got any credible sources? If not, it’s a pretty wild accusation.

              • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
                38·
                6 months ago

                I think the ICRC is a good enough source for me. I heard you the first no need to say the same thing again. You are delusional if you think people will read every long ass report you throw at people.

                I might read it even if it were you that sent it to me, if I find the time but I have other things to do.

                Why are you crying about “spam formatting”?

                I’m under no obligation to know every single thing about the war. I just don’t follow it as closely as you allegedly do, not everyone likes to read about death all day.

    • gmtom@lemmy.worldEnglish
      63·
      6 months ago

      “No ya see, we killed or evicted all the people in the hospital first, so it’s actually perfectly moral for us to use it as a military base, because you see if Hamas wants to attack us, they have to destroy their own vital infrastructure that they already desperately need for their thousands and thousands of sick, I turned and starving civilians!! So yeah no morality issues at all here!”