• TheWoozy@lemmy.world
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      Biden’s going hard on diplomacy, most of which we don’t see. We do see some of the carrot and stick approach he’s using. The stick is the canceled shipment. The promise of future arms is the carrot he’s dangling in front of isreal.

      Biden reeeeealy wants to see Netanyahu gone

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        He’s being consistently ignored about Rafah and then he goes for the carrot? I’m sure giving him what he wants will really help get Netanyahu out.

        What he’s doing is public hand wringing, private support. If anything actually changes I’ll happily change my mind. I’d love to see it. But no, we get more dead kids.

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        Completely delusional. Literally just making up a reality and choosing to live in it regardless of anything that happens.

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          Is it also delusional to say that Biden is intentionally alienating the people most likely to vote for him?

          I think it’s safe to say it’s a complex situation and saying Biden is doing everything he can is just as stupid as saying he is doing nothing at all.

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            Is it also delusional to say that Biden is intentionally alienating the people most likely to vote for him?

            Of course not. The democrats fully expect anyone on the left to continue supporting them because “what are you gonna do, vote Trump?” The people Biden is most likely to alienate are the people most likely to vote for him, because he has no reason to cater to the demands of safe voters.

            Not to mention the fact that he’s literally spent his entire career unwaveringly supporting Israel, and all his current actions are totally consistent with full support for Israel and everything it’s doing. You know, actual evidence.

            You are right to say it’s stupid to claim he’s doing nothing at all. What he’s doing is much, much worse than nothing - he is unconditionally arming a genocide.

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        If we don’t see it, how do you know he’s going hard on diplomacy? Is giving Israel more fucking weapons to kill children “diplomacy”?

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          Cognitive dissonance, otherwise they must admit that the Biden is a genocidal maniac. But since that admission will lead to uncomfortable conclusions perhaps even tankieism, it is best to imagine Biden playing some complex anti-genocide game behind the scenes despite all evidence and remain blissfully liberal. You don’t want Trump to win do you?

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    Anyone else remember that time when he said that he won’t be sending 1 little ammo crate to israel to try and save face?

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      I think that boat is gone now with Bernie being so old. But yes, you could have elected him and have one guy who genuinely cares about people. But I guess money is before people.

      Kind of sad, isn’t it?

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        I really hated all the stupid reasons given for why Bernie could not be president by democrats who voted for Biden

        Of which none included the fact that the DNC chooses its candidates beforehand and opts to support them to win their scam primaries.

        He’s independent and probably running for his last term, should honestly run for president just to show how many votes Biden is not going to get anyway.

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    The vote blue libs didn’t even have breathing room for gloating about his so called restraint over invading rafah to whatever this is. But anyway imagine what trump would do, that’s why gotta vote blue.

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    Biden administration last week: We think there’s good reason to believe that Israel has used our weapons in a way that violates international law.

    That same day: “Are you still going to give them weapons though?”

    A: Oh, of course we are…nobody said anything about that. We’re talking billions with a B.